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kennethgmiller at juno.com
> I realized that I ought to verify some basic historical
> information. Specifically: Were legumes banned at the same time as the
> non-chometz grains, or was this ban in two or more stages? And if it
> was in stages, what was the sequence?

> My guess has been that they were either banned together, or the grains
> were banned first.

My gut tells me that dochan and orez were the first to be banned
or limitted - Why? because R Yochanan ben Nuri considered them as
"hametzable"

I even blogged this as follows

We have a vestige of a RYBN EVEN THOUGH we don't pasqen like him.

Namely we pasqen like R Aqiva that Malchuyyos is in q'dhushas HaYom and
NOT in q'dhushas HaSheim.

Nevertheless, we still say the "uvcheins" and the v'simloch in q'dhushas
HaSheim - Despite it being apparently NOT aliba d'hiclchessa.

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So my hypothesis is as follows, 
- while RYBN was rejected l'halachah re: orez and dochan,
- nevertheless a minhag/humra/harchaqah did develop anyway.

And perhaps later extended to qitniyyos.
Admittedly, I have little evidence other than a strong hunch.

But RAM's 2nd point does match this, Viz. grains before legumes

I hope this helps
ZP
RRW
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