[Avodah] Seeing Policies Everywhere

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:57:38PM +0000, rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com wrote:
:> Unless not every use of the word "gezeirah" doesn't refer to gezeiros
:> in the technical, Mamrim 2:2, sense of the word. As in this case,»

: No! The Mamrim case is:  ...
: A Special
: B very limitted in usage to a very narrow defintion
...

As I argued, there are two usages. And that's what you're currently
saying.

: C problematic, the Rambam's model is sui generiis

Unless the Rambam Mamrim 2:2 usage is the same as the Ba'er Heiteiv's
nimnu. Then you have two people who have this usage, one who implicitly
in other places has a second usage, the other who contrasts the two.

...
:> Unless not every use of the word "gezeirah" doesn't refer to gezeiros in
:> the technical, Mamrim 2:2, sense of the word. As in this case, where the
:> SA says it's a minhag, and thus the word "gezeirah" is being used loosely.

: NOT LOOSELY at all when it is after all is said THE common ubiquitous
: default usage in posqim! ...

How does that make it not looser than the nimnu / Mamrim 2:2 usage?

I think your entire objection is that I'm calling the nimnu usage the
"real" one, even though it's less common. That has more to do with my
own bias toward rigid technical definitions than anything of substance.

-Micha

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