[Avodah] Das Teireh (was: Habituation)

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 02:08:51AM -0500, T613K at aol.com wrote:
: Here we might almost segue into a discussion of that perennial, so  
: misunderstood subject:  what is da'as Torah?

Actually, it doesn't.

Our conversation is about whether the process of pesaq can be
formalized, and therefore studied out of books alone, or whether one
needs experience with a rebbe to get a feel for how it's done --
including things a book can't really capture.

RYK basically said that learning shas and poseqim isn't enough to become
a poseiq.

The perennial subject, which I would call by the Litvisher Yiddish "Das
Teireh" so as to distinguish it from historical usage, is not limited
to pesaq.

The issues of intermarriage vs niddah, or hair covering, or qol ishah,
are all matters of pesaq. The need for a general feel for how halakhah
works is felt by the poseiq getting the question, even if it's an LOR
and not a gadol hador.

Das Teireh differs in two ways:
1- It focuses on getting advice, not pesaq. The question needn't revolve
   around the halachic or hashkafic aspects of the situation.
2- It isn't sho'eil and poseiq, it applies to "the gedolim".

If you take what RYKamenecki was talking about, and assert that the same
feel that one acquires for Torah if acquired in sufficient quantities
can help one be more accurate in other topics, THEN you have Das Teireh.

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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