[Avodah] Habituation

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Sun Feb 7 15:43:20 PST 2010


Michael:
> Arukh ha-Shulhan derive a principle of married women specifically
> being required? I'm honestly confused. According to what I've seen,
> the only heter that UN-married women have,is a hergel one. Were it not
> for habituation, unmarried women would have exactly the same requirement
> to cover their hair as married women. Shouldn't hergel apply to married
> women just the same as unmarried women, given that the Gemara and Rambam
> don't distinguish between married and unmarried women?)

I'm fairly certain this was covered in a Das Moshe vs. Das Yehudah thread
many years ago

Simply put -
There are absolute erva's and relative erva's

AIUI - "ufara es Roshah" creates an absolute erva WRT to married [Jewish]
women's hair, with other women - it's subject to hergel.

Reductio ad absurdum

Would we say that a nudist colony - since due to hergel lacks any hirhur -
therefore has
zero laws of tz'nius?
I think not!

What Michael is Saying makes sense in those areas that are based upon
societal norms. But there is an absolute component to erva, too

So AIUI - during qri'as Sh'ma - even tz'nius kol isha is assur. Outside
that context, hergel, dress, inuendo, would be relative factors whether
kol isha is assur or not.

My 2 cents
RRW
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