[Avodah] Two idle questions

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:41:12PM -0500, David Riceman wrote:
: Micha Berger wrote:
: >I think your question would only apply to people who don't voluntarily
: >accept the authority of BD.

: No.  You're conflating two opinions.  Your argument would work if BD 
: gets their authority through the consent of the litigants, but not if BD 
: gets their authority through the government...

I'm not talking about where BD gets the power of HBDH. I'm talking about
where the US allows a third party to trample on my property. A frum Jew
is hopefully machania to BD, and therefore because the litigant allows,
the dina de-US shouldn't be a problem.

I'm also not sure how much further the conversation could go in this
direction, as it's not about US law. My point was just to limit the DDD
question to Jews who wouldn't submit to halakhah or the concept of BD.

Another relevent piece is whether HBDH is being applied by a particular
BD, in which an O Jew might also not respect a given court, and where
HBDH was invoked once by Chazal in a "mikan ulehaba" manner.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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