[Avodah] R' H Schachter-kashrut

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

R Joel Rich:
> R'HS spoke last night and mentioned kashrut items we've discussed
...
> 2. Hechsher means all ingredients are kosher/ no bittul etc. because
> that's what people expect

In a private email response from a major agency they pretty much said
the same. Having non-kosher ingredeints listed on a certified product
would undermine their ne'emanus.

{Parenthetically they also said they have enough tzaros w/o adding this,
too. ;-) }

This pretty much agrees with my earlier posts stating that European
style lists can be more lenient l'chatchilah than can American kashrus
agencies, albeit my suggested dynamics may have been different And that
gets to the murky area of Halachah vs. Policy.

Another major agency insisted to me that they maintain certain "standards"
many of which were admittedly not to be found in SA.
[Just as my Chinese owner will not package his food in mere boxes that
have dairy or treif labels because of Ch'shad]

Now if some intrepid advocates of strict textual Halachah want to start
a new agency that makes no such additional strictures - it's a free
country! Go for it.

The Agencies seem to be saying 
A: that it's not THEIR humras that drive this - rather 
B: it's the consumer's humros in the marketplace that drive this.

RY Schaeffer
> "if there are any bugs, they've disintegrated" is somehow involved.
> I don't know if that's the only factor in that case, but it. was cited.

There is a big hiluq between definite issur and suspected [safeiq] issur.

AIUI bittul l'chathcilah for s'feiq issur is muttar. 

Also - as above - the bugs are not a listed, desired ingredient. So
Agencies are not concerned about giving their blessings to bugs. They
are like "davar she'ino miskavein."

ZP
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