[Avodah] kol hamosif, gorea

[hankman]

I (CM) previously wrote:

>> I guess the upshot is if they were (all) not aware of ?true and correct
>> science, then this implies a failing in their gadlus in limud haTorah not
>> just in their knowledge of secular studies, which in turn implies we have 
>> a
>> lack in "emunas Chazal" if we do not reject this?
>

RET responded:

> The gemara explicitly asks questions of doctors including nonJewish ones.
> The gemara implies that doctors in Egypt knew medical procedures not
> known by anyone else. Why would chazal ask outside opinions
> and even do experiments if they knew everything from sodot?
> R. Akiva explains pesukim based on what he learned in his travels to
> Africa and other places. Abaye quotes his nurse with her advice.
> The maid of Rebbi Yehuda haNasi was admired for her knowledge
> of  Hebrew more than most tannaim. So we explicitly see that chazal were
> willing to take advice and knowledge from all sources.
>
>
> Eli Turkel
>


CM responds:

Please just explain how you understand the two medroshim I quoted above. 
1)"Histakel be'Oraisa ubara alma,"  2) "behiborom" - "behaiborom"? Does this 
mean that science is embedded in Torah or not?

Also what type of information do you think is implied when Chazal speak of 
sodos of maaseh beraishis? (Obviously we do not have these details or they 
would not be sodos, but just a general qualitative notion of the subject 
matter?)

Ultimately, perhaps I should question my own axioms. Are there things buried 
so deeply within Torah that no man can reach, or is all information therein 
intended to be reached by at least some man perhaps only the greatest like 
Moshe Rab.

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster