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Micha 
> But RET is talking about the claim that they knew all of science, not 
> that they got glimpses of future devices. 
> IOW, the claim under the discussion is bedavka about knowing the "how". 

And I'm saying those who stake that claim labor under a
mis-understanding. They take the knowledge of the WHAT to mean the HOW
also. It's a classic hiluq

The fact that I know that a shochet does sh'chita or even having learned
it in SA, does not make me a schochet.

RET: 
> The gemara explicitly asks questions of doctors including nonJewish ones. 
> The gemara implies that doctors in Egypt knew medical procedures not 
> known by anyone else. Why would chazal ask outside opinions 
> and even do experiments if they knew everything from sodot?»

P'shita: 
Again Hazal knew OF advanced medicine and so they consulted the hands-on
experts.
Their knowledge was simple -- they knew the potentials. The actual
engineering details often belonged to secular sources.

I know the Rambam wrote the sod ho'ibbur, it doesn't mean I could
teach it.

Simple: posit that Hazal had awreness of advanced science and dismiss
anyallegations that they could always pull it off themselves! Why make
life difficult? Isn't this classic Ockham?

Hazal had insight and imagination re: "science fiction" w/o being experts
themselves. Prophets see visions
EG Elisha knew tomorrow's price of bread w/o necessarily seeing how it
would be pulled off!

Did Zeresh et al. know HOW Haman would fall when they prophesied "ki
nafol tipol" I say no way, they knew the finale w/o knowing not HOW it
would play out!

Freilichen Purim 
RRW 
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