[Avodah] On Pilpul (was: Chezkas Kehunah)
rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Thu Feb 11 15:44:56 PST 2010
Micha:
> Someone recently posted a side-comment that was disparaging of pilpul.
I think I posted something but was not offering my personal take but
paraphrasing complaints of others
Piplul to me depends. Like many things - it can be abused
The usual case is
Since X is true in context A it is also true in context B
EG
A rebbe in yeshiva used the concept of first 3 brachos in amida are one
[re: hamelech haqadosh] and pilpulistically applied it to Kavvanah
as follows
Since
A Avos requires kavannah
And since
B the first 3 brachot are really one
Therefore
C really all 3 brachot require kavvanah
A similar point might be made about requiring 4 times for negel vasser
Since
A it takes 3 washings to remove ruach ra'ah
And since
B the third washing still leaves one's hands wet
Therefore
C a 4th rinse is needed
[Never mind that Hazal MIGHT have figured that the third rinse already
does that trick!]
It's a kind of bootstrapping
EG halachos are established about not eating or learning before b'diqas
hametz
Late Acharonim applied these to hadlaqa ner Hanukka:
AISI, a bit pilpulistic
Whether this pilpul is good, bad or ugly is after all quite subjective.
I'm only trying to illustrate it as I understand it.
The mother sugya iirc is found in tosafos on "kaffus v'yashein", I forgot
exact mar'eh maqom
KT
RRW
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