[Avodah] Rights in halakhah

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:49:26PM -0500, Zev Sero wrote:
: >If I cared about implication, then I would say that rights and duties
: >are equivalent. What's my right to life but everyone else's duty not to
: >kill me?

: That's exactly what I wrote about two messages ago...

But since I don't care about implication, since it's less of an effect
on culture than how we talk about the principles, we're STILL in
disagreement.

:>My whole point is what is considered primary, how the legal theory
:>influences the culture of the people who fall under it.

: And this is what I've not been getting about your theory for as long
: as you've been propounding it.  This distinction you're drawing doesn't
: seem to make sense.  There is no "primary"; they're the same thing.

There is a difference between a philosophy that says the human condition
is based on A, therefore B, and one that says the human condition is
based on B therefore A.

The different self-images create different people. Even if they create
the same law.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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