[Avodah] Seeing G'zeiros Everywhere

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Thu Dec 24 08:37:44 PST 2009


RDR:
> It's not clear to me how the rules for autonomous kehillos translate for 
> citizens of secular democracies.  I would hope that contemporary poskim 
> discuss this, but I'm not up on the modern literature.  Someone on this 
> list should be.

My point in this thread is to avoid pontificating any klalil or klalos
;-) until a robust corpus of examples can be presented and then we may
make taxonomies as appropriate.

However, the best read I know on this is Menachem Elon's Mishpat ha'Ivri
[full disclosure a friend translated this]

AFAIK it is the definitive work.

Just as Minhag is an elusive word, so is g'zeira. And So is the word
doctor, it might mean physician, it might be a dentist, it might be a
professor or it might be a former Met and Yankee pitcher!

My tachlis is to rid people of rigid beliefs that fail to map reality
correctly. Marc Shapiro found gazillions of exceptions to how people
see the iqqarei emunah. His legitimate point is aisi that they are more
fluid than we think

The move to calicification and rigidty is IMHO counter-productive except
perhaps for children and adolescents.

If HKBH wanted to, HE could have created a Shulchan Aruch Himself and
handed it to us.

Instead RY Karo did one via the Maggid and the Rema and hundreds of nos'ei
Keilim quibble virtually - despite The mechabeir's other-wordly rebbe!

The Dibros were written in stone

Miqra on parchment

TSBP not at all.

As Rebbe often did in the mishnah he cites case law before "zeh haklal". I
ask people to read and research, but like a jury suspend judgment until
a week or 2 goes by "havvu m'sunnim badin" IOW don't jump to conclusions

KT
RRW
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