[Avodah] Kashrus and Shabbas

[Chana Luntz]

I asked:

> > Err, where do you get that from?

And RIB writes:

> http://www.halachayomit.co.il/Default.asp?PageIndex=2&HalachaID=614

I confess this is extraordinary (the writer of this teshuva claims that yesh
aitza sheyachol la'asot ken llo chashash" by using a shabbas clock and that
at the time that the platter is off "yachol l'haniach algabah kol ma
sheirotzeh, afilu marak".)  I had a poke around the site and it claims that
the teshuvot were written by Rav Ovadiah's grandson (Ya'akov Sasson),
although they do claim they have Rav Ovadiah's guidance.  But I checked both
Yachave Daat and Yabiat Omer and I can't see anything like this in his main
teshuvot.

And certainly my experience is that wherever Rav Ovadiah has a specific
teshuva, the exact wording of the conclusion is included in the Yalkut Yosef
in one of his main paragraphs - which suggests to me that at least at the
time that the Yalkut Yosef was published there was nothing from Rav Ovadiah
saying this.

And the teshuva really doesn't read to me like a Rav Ovadiah teshuva.  After
all, as the Yalkut Yosef brings quite clearly, even if you were to hold that
a Shabbat clock is mutar to use with a platter meikar hadin, "llo chashash"
is decidedly strong - given all the issues that the Yalkut Yosef raises in
the paragraph and footnote I cited.  And "kol ma sheirotzeh" would seem to
suggest even if the food in question had not already been cooked (ie it is
not just bishul achar bishul that this teshuva would seem on the face of it
to allow, but initial bishul (other than water) as well so long as you used
a platter Shabbat and a time clock).

It seems really very odd to me that Rav Ovadiah would come out with a major
heter like this without one of his fully sourced and thoroughly argued
teshuvot.  There are no sources in this at all.  And while other people
often summarise him and his conclusions without sources, it doesn't really
seem to fit with Rav Ovadiah's writings to have nothing in writing to refer
to that is full sourced.  In addition, it seems to me that the Yalkut Yosef
holds differently, otherwise he would not need to mention specifically
leaving the item on from erev shabbas.

And note that even this teshuva writer acknowledges that the din is that
yesh bishul achar bishul for a dvar lach, that is why he has to suggest this
"eitza" regarding the shabbas clock, to enable warm soup.  If there was no
bishul achar bishul, like with yavesh, none of this would be necessary.  So
really this teshuva is about what may be permitted by way of a shabbas
platter and a time clock.

Shavuah tov

Chana