[Avodah] Raw food on Erev Shabbos

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

> Bris Olam  says that raw food will become partly cooked by the time
> Shabbos really starts, since we are mekabel Shabbos before the zeman. 
> Furthermore, he says that becoming yad soledes bo is already considered
> partially cooked and no longer permitted due to kidra chaysa.
> Gershon gershon.dubin at juno.com

Ein hachi nami if it's edible by Friday Night dinner there is no hesech
hada'as aiui ...

EXCEPT see Turan and
BY (253) [D"H v'im nassan bah chatichah chaya] besheim Rambam that any
action to demonstrate an intention of hesech hada'as is sufficient to
avert the decree
"Midkar leih v'lo asi l'chatuyei"

[FWIW This is how I learned the sugya myself]

See Taz 253:2
MGA 253:1
Baier Hetev 3
Bei'ur Halacha [D"H
Masi'ach daato mimena ad boker]

"Lo gazru chachaimim she'ein daato le'echol az" echoing Rambam-BY

Therefore AISI
Any cholent pot deignated for the morning se'udah

AND

One has done an action demonstarting hesech hada'as of putting in a raw
piece of meat right before Shabbos

Is OK

If one puts the raw meet too much before Shabbos starts then it's not
OK because it is no longer chay but rather "mevushal v'eino mevushal"

AFAIK Rav Henkin's issue is that since we start shabbos earlier, it's
nowadays a problem that it's not raw by tzeis

But I say so what? Since we light candles earlier therefore the hesech
hada'as takes place earlier!

Ken Nireh LFAD

[Email #2. -mi]

Addendum
See AhS 253:8
He says my svara that so long as not ready for s'udas halayla it's a good
hesech hada'as even though 3-4 hours later it will be ready Friday Night

I don't see AhS [or even my s'vara] as anything but pashut p'shat.

The point "hochacha" of his intentions ayein sham.

KT
RRW
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