[Avodah] Esav

[Eli Turkel]

<rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> "In discussing Esav=Edom we have to distinguish between various eras.
> In the chumash Esav is not painted in such black terms. Though he has
> his faults he does everything for his father and sincerely wants the berachot
> and eventually makes up with Yaakov."
>
> Here is my simple p'shat of the 2 eras
> That there are 2 dinnim in Esav :-)
>
> The one, that person,  in the Torah did only one explicit "crime" - viz. He married "B'nos Cheis"
> Thus Esav the person was not unredeemable
> But Esav-Edom the nation IS evil mostly due to the wives of Esav who served as Mothers to the nation of Edom!
> So in yesterday's Hafatara "es Esav saneisi" imho address "am esav"
>
This assumes that the Romans were physical descendants of Esav. This
seems unlikely as
the Romans considered themselves relate dto the Greeks i.e.
descendants of Yefet and
not Shem. There is no evidence that the Romans were semites.

Furthermore later the term Edom was used for the vatican. Xtians are
certainly not physical
descendants of anyone as they are no longer an ethnic group.
Hence, the connection of Rome to Edom is symbolic and not physical


-- 
Eli Turkel