[Avodah] Yom Tov Sheni for Olim LeReget to the Beit

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Sun Nov 22 13:53:06 PST 2009


Chana
> And I can't see how you can say that *they have to conform* when the case in
> uestion, ie smicha, they do not conform, floating ones hands over a korban
> s not the same as pressing down with all one's strength.

They're still conforming to the parameters of Hazal.
As far as I'm concerned the fact that as per Tosafos this is a single
p'rat that is gender specific is still notwithstanding

Truly optional means conformity is unnecessary. Here it means that a
quibble is required due to a 2ndary issue of sh'vus.

Regardless, this is a strawman.

I quoted BY quoting the Ran. I'm not sure that Ran's take is identical
to Tosafos or deviates as per Raava"d. At any rate Somchos Reshus
implies performing a mitzvah so as to fulfill an obligation that iis
not a requirement which is to Sephardim oxymoronic

So to Ashkenazim it's not because they are complying to halachic
strictures - see my point from sh'qalim

The fact that the strictures may vary due to ezternal reasons
(viz. Sh'vus) is at most a quibble or aisi kind of a red herring.

So women are told to press down gently. OK so if fails that criteria
of really baring down, but all other criteria [the kind of animal, the
timing the location] still require halachic cofrmity. EG does Reshus
imply in her house? While t'mei'ah? After shechita? I think not.

KT
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