[Avodah] Yom Tov Sheni for Olim LeReget to the Beit Mikdash

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Mon Nov 16 16:08:23 PST 2009


Chana Heather at kolsassoon.org.uk
> One then can perhaps argue in Tosfot that when they say that women say
> "vitzivanu" it is meant indeed - that women are commanded that if they
> want to they can do the mitzvah - ie a kind of mitzvah kayemet].

See Mishnah Sh'qalim
1:5

There are 3 categories re: Sh'qalim

The Obligatory
[EG Jewish adult males]
The Rejected
[EG Kussim etc.]
And the Voluntary [EG Nashim avodim, ketanim]

Question for contemplation: May a woman or child offer only a
quarter-sheqel in lieu of a half-sheqel?

Let's go to 4 Minim
Since a woman is not obligated therefore -Q: May she take 3 kosher minim
and substitute a lemon for an Esrog?

Answer:
of course not!

By obligating herself, a woman is not creating an obligation to DO,
but to conform to the HOW whilst doing.

Similar to sh'chita and arba kanfos. A Jew is permitted to kill an
animal w/o shechita, but when performing sh'chita a Jew must conform to
Hilchos Sh'chita.

AISI, it's this submission to the rules that encompasses "tzivanu"
implying the HOW, as opposed to implying a necessity to perform.

EG Therefore a woman may not hear a cow's horn on RH since it fails to
effect any mitzvah therefore it violates muktzeh, etc.

And AFAICT When a woman does s'micha on a Qorban, she must also follow
those rules, even thought its only r'shus

So for ashkenazim
Reshus implies no obligation, voluntary

tzivanu implies complying to the applicable Halachos, [which for women
may be a voluntary complicity]

KT
RRW
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