[Avodah] Yom Tov Sheni for Olim LeReget to the Beit Mikdash
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rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Mon Nov 16 12:07:34 PST 2009
Micha:
> There are a number of ways the Sanhedrin could use the cheshbon:
...
> 2- It was al pi re'iyah, but they could use the cheshbon to verify the
> plausability of the eidus.
> 3- It was al pi cheshbon, but they took license with it as needed.
...
AIUI [d'lo ker. Bachaye]
It's 2.5
2.5 The eidus was iqqar but the cheshbon was known [at least somewhat]
and it was a back-up, and occasionaly that cheshbon was used to force
the issue when needed.
But from the mishnayos, never to make up eidus mamash.
I don't think RG himself held that edus was 100% Kosher. Aiui he forced
the issue anyway, using the cheshbon, and over-reaching its use
IOW the edus he relied upon was a "fig-leaf" and a somewhat radical
departure an end that justified the means...
OTOH R Bachaye's sheeta AISI, makes R Dosa and R Yehoshua look very bad,
almost rebellious C"V. If Cheshbon was really the iqqar than THEIR
behavior was inexcusable, and RG's was not at all. AISI, R Bachaye is
using hazaqa dehashta to [unconsciously?] super-impose a post Hillel II
hashqafah on the era of RG, but it seems really shver to see it that way.
Rather during RG's time what he did seemed over-the-top, but after Hillel
II it seems rather normal in retrospect. Thus RG's biggest avla might be
that he was "ahead of his time" and not the first leader to suffer for it.
Remember, by all accounts RG was pushing the envelope
He indeed may have had a tzorech gadol to do so.
Re: Machar Hodesh. By all means people probably knew the "normal"
sitaution. But if all knew it really well, then s'feiqa deyoma is more
or less a joke. If RH is either Sunday or Monday and I KNOW lo ad"u
Rosh for a fact, what's the safeiq?!
KT
RRW
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