[Avodah] Question

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 06:34:42AM -0500, Richard Wolberg wrote:
: I'm not clear what you are saying. What do you mean that Qayin's sin  
: was defiance
: of G-d's law when there was no mitzvah yet given for Lo tirtzach?

No, I"m saying that something fundamental happened when the human being
saw that he could defy G-d's will. The second sin had a different victim,
but it already was committed by someone who knew that sin was an option.
The internalization of the yh"r had already occured.

: Secondly, you write that you "don't see a parallel." I didn't make a  
: parallel; you did.
: My point was that the first sin and Qayin's sin was NOT parallel,  
: l'hefech.

Well, you were saying they're both firsts, and I was trying to reply that
you can't compare the firsts -- eating the fruit was unique in its impact
on the human condition simply by being the first sin of any sort. Even
before we explore the content of the particular sin. The difference
between BALM and BALC pales in comparison to having no experience with
defying the law, and I can't even figure out how to frame that BALM-BALC
difference in terms of impact on the human condition.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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