[Avodah] mei marom

[Zev Sero]

Eli Turkel wrote:
>> Eli Turkel wrote:
>>> from
>>> http://www.jewishpressads.com/pageroute.do/14221
>>>  "Why did Rabbi Chanina cry?
>> *He didn't*.  RChbT was already dead and unable to cry, even had he
>> been so inclined.  This entire "torah" is based on the author
>> misremembering the gemara, and thus fails.
>>
> The "author" is HaRav Schach. unlikely he didn't remember correctly the gemara.

He admitted that he only knew the "yeshiveshe mesechtos".  In any case,
whether he ever knew it or not, he clearly got it wrong.  This entire
"pshetel" rests on RChbT having cried, and *he didn't*.  Make of that
what you like, and I'm trying to keep this polite, but this pshetel
is worthless.


> So far both HaRav Schach and HaRav Soloveitchik associate the gemara
> with teshuva
> Good enough for me

No, it's not good enough.  Show me *anything* in the gemara to suggest
such a connection.  Even show me *any* commentator on the gemara who
reads it that way.  Do *not* show me mussar drashas that are not based
on the text of the gemara, from the inside.

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