[Avodah] Hekker for Sukkah on Shmini Azteres

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Mon Oct 12 20:17:26 PDT 2009


RAM
> A common explanation for why Leshev Basukkah is not said on Shmini Atzeres
> in Chu"l is that the absence of the bracha serves as a hekker regarding
> the mitzvah status. This appears, for example, in Aruch Hashulchan 668:2

There are roughly 3 schools re: sitting in the Sukkah on SA in Chu"l

>From right to left
1 BY-GRA-KSA etc.
    Sit in Sukkah during SA with every Humra of the first 7 days [iow
    even nap] - only omit the brachah.
2 Mordechai-Levush-Derech HaHayyim
    ONLY sit in Sukkah during SA, when it is patently obvious a brachah
    would otherwise be triggered during the first 7 days. [IOW Seudos YT]
    Otherwise sheina, snacks etc. should not be done because the absence
    of a brachah is not apparent. The concern is possible bal tosif
    [or perhaps meich'zi k'val tosif]
3
    Don't sit in the Sukkah at all during SA. Apparently Bal Tosif is
    a real concern unless one would sit in a really warm climate for
    pleasure "areivah lo"

AISI, only the middle position has a shaychus to hekker. And AIUI,
the Rema would probably hold this way because Mordechai and Levush do.
Thus, it is a good question re: the Rema - why not do yehi ratzon at
end of hoshana rabba?

Lesheeta 3 that is probably what is done.

Lesheeta 1, this would be minor "blasphemy" since Sukkah on Shmini is
the same except for the brachah.

Lesheeta 2, maybe we can say that this might be taking hekker too far -
lest people following 2 slide into 3 by doing the yehi ratzon on Ho"R
one may be tempted to not sit at all on SA.

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For more info - including 2 ways of parsing the "hilchesa" see
Nishma-Minhag : Message: Sukkah on Shmini Atzeres baGolah - To sit or Not to Sit? 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nishma-Minhag/message/87

KT
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