[Avodah] Repeating Shemoneh Esrei
Micha Berger
micha at aishdas.org
Thu Dec 17 11:22:55 PST 2009
A co worker just asked me this she'eilah...
Say someone missed tal umatar and has to repeat Shemoneh Esrei. Now in
his repetition, he forgot Yaaleh veYavo. So the first SE contained
Yaaleh veYavo, the second contained TU, but neither contained both.
Does he have to repeat SE a third time?
IOW, why do we repeat?
1- Is it that these things have to be said, and since that requires an SE,
we repeat the whole SE?
In which case, everything necessary was already said, so there is no
need for the third repetition.
2- Or is it a pesul in the SE not to say everything coined for that
tefillah?
In which case, he has yet to say a complete SE, and needs to try yet
again.
The argument for #2 is that it appears to be what Chazal are literally
saying: "ke'ilu lo hispallel". However, if it really was ke'ilu, then if
the zeman passed there would be a tashlumim, and there isn't.
Yaaleh veYavo isn't likely to be part of the original divrei soferim of
davening 3 times a day (or 4 or 5 on appropriate days). Uneshalmah parim
sefaseinu ties the taqanah to churban bayis, the only possible one of
which would be bayis rishon. At that point, Retzei might have existed
-- some form of it was said daily by the kohanim during bayis sheini,
although "ve'ishei Yisrael usefilasam teqabeil beratzon" sounds like it
was coined at a time when qorbanos were being brought. But in general,
the only thing we AKhG could have coined were the chasimos.
So Yaaleh veYavo isn't part of that taqanah.
Meaning that perhaps ke'ilu lo hispallel is on the matbei'ah tefillah /
derabbanan level, not on the stop to pray 3 times a day divrei soferim
level. Which is then too weak (a 2nd "perhaps") to require tashlumim. And
thus perhaps ke'ilu lo hispallel does literally mean a pesul in his
tefillah -- but not require tashlumim.
(I intentionally pretended there was no question of Maariv being a reshus,
since that would just complicate the language beyond "3 times a day"
and be a distraction.)
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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