[Avodah] Yom Tov Sheni for Olim LeReget to the Beit Mikdash

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:05:41PM -0500, Zev Sero wrote:
: >I was under the impression that during the time that YT sheni was a 
: >gezeirah, as opposed to minhag avos, that is, before the fixed calendar
: 
: You have that backwards.  Before the fixed calendar it was a practise
: (minhag, if you like) based on the existence of a safek de'oraisa.

Not a minhag, a din mishum safeiq deOraisa lehachmir. I'm butting in
more because of the "what is a minhag?" thread than anything here.

: The gezeira "hachaziku minhag avoteichem biydeichem" came *after* the
: introduction of the fixed calendar.

And so it shifted from a pesaq based on whether or not one was besafeiq
into a din derabbanan which now lacks that limitation (since there is no
safeiq anymore).

The question which I still feel wasn't fully resolved from a month or two
back was when the first version of the fixed calendar was introduced. Are
we sure it was after churban bayis, or was there a period of time in
which they were told to follow minhag avos AND were olim laregel?

: >that you went according to the place you are in. [...] 
: >Isn't this the basis of the Chacham Tzvi's psak that everyone keeps one 
: >day in EY?

: Indeed.

IOW, the question is: Then they were gozerim to continue the practice, was
it based on who is during Yom Tov where the safeiq would have been (CT),
or a taqanah on the community one lives in (what most of us do lemaaseh).

The fact that it's not minhag avos trumping minhag hamaqom is interesting,
since that's the way the taqnah was explained to begin with. (It would
have provided support/disproof for Prof Agus's theory, because we could
have seen who had how many immigrants fro EY and how many from Bavel
even many years later.)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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