See Peirush on Humash Breishis 9:23 [New edition p. 241] "Acheir is anything characterized by NEGATION" - emphasis mine Thus [Acheir] Elisha ben Avuya and the Acheirim Omrim would/could have a negative connotation. IOW it would go beyond a simple "Yeish Omrim" to convey a perjorative. KT RRW Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile