[Avodah] What is a minhag?
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Thu Nov 5 08:58:26 PST 2009
Ben Waxman:
> Yes but what defines a holy religious custom? When the Rema brings down 3
> opinions of the rishonim and says that the minhag is like X, is that a holy
> religious custom/minhag in the same way that say kitniyot are?
No
Minhag 1 is a p'saq choice
Source:
See TB pesachim 103A
Amar R Yochanan:
Nahagu ha'am k'divrei BH v'aliba R Yehuda
Note: AISI this minhag changes psaq FROM a stam mishnah TO a braisso in
a Tosefta
So a minhag could similarly change P'saq from a default sefer (EG Bavli)
to another sefer (EG Y-lmi or Tosefta)
Qitnoyyos is a minhag because it was an anonymous g'zeria that was
nispasheit
Source
TB Hullin 91a top
Rav Ashi amar lo nitzrecha ela lishmeino tetanya shemeinu muttar [halachically] V'yisroel Q'doshim nahagu bo issur [anonymous Minhag lehumra, out of syag or q'dusha]
Shma Mina T'las
1. An anonymous g'zeira can morph into Minhag Yisroel
2. Hazal could ratify a minhag they didn't initiate
3. That Minhag could become a "derabannan"
How? THe Rambam treats this minhag as a full "divrei soferim" [iirc so
does the Stamma d'Gmara, but I can't locate it now]. Of course that might
be limited to minhaggim in the Talmud Bilvad and THAT could include the
"minhag" to say Hallel on Rosh Hodesh!
Summary
Minhag 1 selection of P'saq from amongst authorities (this is the most
frequent "type" in mechabeir and Rema)
Minhag 2
Anonymous "g'zeira" that is nispashet
For more details see
Menache allon (EG in Enc Judaica)
KT
RRW
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