[Avodah] mei marom

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Sun Nov 1 22:06:32 PST 2009


From: Zev Sero _zev at sero.name_ (mailto:zev at sero.name) 

>>How does teshuvah  earn OHB?  What did he *do* to earn it?  Where is
his life of torah  and mitzvos?  Teshuva to get out of gehenom I
understand, but how does  it earn OHB? ....



He literally *bought* it.  As for  justice, he got in on RChbT's zechus,
not his own. ...  RChbT had  enough credit Above to get two people
(and many more) into OHB, and if he  chose to spend some of that credit
to get this Roman in, that's his  business.  The Roman had something he
needed, so he paid the price  demanded. <<






>>>>>
 
Excuse me, but didn't the Roman sentence himself to death for the sin of  
murder, and throw himself into the fire?  How is that NOT doing  teshuva?  He 
could have (supposedly) gained olam haba just by taking away  the wet 
cotton.
 
Also, if he previously didn't believe in G-d or in schar ve'onesh or  in  
olam haba, and he now does believe in olam haba and in the survival of  the 
soul after death -- does that not show that he did teshuva?
 

--Toby Katz
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