[Avodah] Gezeiros after Sanhedrin

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Tue Aug 25 11:07:44 PDT 2009


Micha Berger wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:18:38PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
> : That can't be so, because RYBZ's beis din was in Yavneh.
> 
> Well, it was in both. 40 of his 60 years were before the churban

What 60 years?  He was only a leader for 40 years.  And he wasn't
the nasi before the churban -- R Gamliel was.  In any case, even
if he had been nasi for 40 years before the churban, that would
still not have been in the LhG. 


> It's quite
> possible that the taqanah of shofar was before "tein li Yavneh".

No, it isn't.  This gezera was explicitly after the churban.


> Do we have reason to believe that Rabba's gezeirah was not made by a
> Sanhedrin?

Only that Rabba was not on the Sanhedrin, and if it had been it
would surely be quoted in their name.


> As for Hillel and the end of the Sanhedrin... the end of the Sanhedrin
> is often dated to Hillel because of the belief that the calendar was
> among the last acts of the Sanhedrin.

It is the last act that we know of.


> Yes, it's possible that it was a
> false alarm, or the beginning of a decades-long end, but that's not
> how Doros haRishonim (eg) puts it.

Did he have any reason to know the actual history?  Or is he deducing
it from the fact of the calendar being implemented?


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