[Avodah] tisha baav as a moed

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:58:04PM +0300, Eli Turkel wrote:
:> I think of "mo'eid" as "an appointment". As in "ki eis lechenena ki va
:> mo'eid", bimheirah beyameinu, amein.

:> 9 beAv is a time for a particular kind of encounter with the
:> Aibishter....
:> I would say therefore that the pasuq is being used to teach that 9 beAv
:> is a time for reflecting on the message of 9 beAv to the exclusion of
:> the personal baqashos of tachnun.

: Sounds similar to RYBS explanation that we dont say tachanun because of the
: pasuk "satam tefillati" that it is a day when we dont ask for requests

Except that RYBS doesn't explicitly address the notion of tying it to
"mo'eid".

I'm trying to tie in that notion, and saying that the mo'eid is defined
as an appointment with the A-lmighty whose nature leaves us tongue-tied.

And so 9 beAv really is a mo'eid, like the chagim -- even though they
are appointments for different kinds of encounter. The gemara then adds
that when HaMaqom finally does give us complete nechamah, the appointment
will remain even though the theme will not. And at that time, the mo'eid
will be more of a festival.

A question we might have to shelve until it becomes halakhah lemaaseh:
My father phrased his hopes as this being the last year he would not
put on tefillin at Shacharis on 9 beAv. Once it becomes a holiday, will
we put on tefillin at all? Or is the gemara implying there would be an
issur melakhah?

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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