[Avodah] Tzeni'us and gender roles

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Joseph C. Kaplan:
> But that's just the point -- men do NOT violate tzni'ut as LITTLE
> as possible; they violate it as MUCH as possible if you accept RHS and
> RMB's definition of tzni'ut for men.

WADR this is a straw man

RHS, RMB gave an ideal view - not necessarily THE pragmatic one

I backed them up with a svara from a different context

J Kaplan's upshlug has naught to deal with the ideal but with the
realia...

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Once a rav in Hartford gave a speech opposing giving $$ for kibbudim.
And he even gave a disclaimer - this will kill the whole business!
:-). IOW he realized he was reading from a sefer and that this ideal
would conflict with the shul's ability to find its budget. So he gave
a wink and nod but explained the mussar of not chasing kavod.

He certainly had little or no expectation of being mevatel the shul's
own successful auctions for kibbudim!

KT
RRW
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