[Avodah] Women Learning Torah

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Ilana:
> "Produce"? The way to "produce" clergy is by teaching them Torah, and
> this hasn't been postponed.

That's not quite my point

My point is to produce Torah-lishma learned women FIRST and NOT to
produce learned women who are motivated to be called "rebbe" until much
later in the game!

The correct understanding is as I wrote
    Teach Now
    Clergy possibly later

RYDS would probaly hold
    Teach Now
    And
    Women Clergy Never.

And Hareidm hold
Don't teach women now.

I am davka calling for 2 distinct steps over the course of a generation
    STEP 1 - allow/encourage fully learned women
    STEP 2 - see what happens as communties sort this out
W/o step 1 step 2 would have to be delayed.

By having a trained army reserve they will be battle-ready almost
immediately.
Or maybe the call might not come
And since the call might NEVER come therefore all the learning of this
transition generation perforce would be lishma only w/o expectations of
being called "rebbe"

Anything less and I think the ideal will be compromised or dilluted
by women eager to assert themselves as "rebbe" which will engender a
gender reaction.

Parallel Parable
In 1948 Gen. Douglas MacArthur egotisitcally thrust himself as a
Presidential candidate. His bid failed and he was labeled an "American
Napoleon"

In 1952 the country practically begged "Ike" to take the office for
the asking.

Ike won 2 landslides because America was eager to have him

MacArthur was soundly rejected because he was eager to become President.

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Thus, an abortive attempt will indeed produce, but AISI a
counterproduction!

KT
RRW
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