[Avodah] Ein Mevatlin issur lechatchilah

[Yaakov Ellis]

See Igrot Mishe, Yoreh Deah 1, Siman 62, page 105 in the standard edition,
first column, first complete paragraph. He is talking about where a blended
whiskey may have wine in it, and how the wine can be nullified.

Summary: Even if the whiskey factory belongs to a Jew, and even if Jews
purchase the product (and one might say that it is therefore made for them),
since most of the whiskey is sold to non Jews, it is thought of as being
produced for the rov, and there is no issur because of "ein mavatlin issur
lechatchila" in this case.

(Also see siman 63, page 107, last pargraph, for Rav Moshe's response to
someone attacking his reasoning on the grounds that since there are a
significant number of Jewish customers, it should be assur to mevatel issur
on their behalf. Also see the end of Siman 64, bottom of the first column on
page 110).

Presumably the same would hold true in the case of gelatin, where most of
the gelatin is going to non Jews.

Yaakov Ellis

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Given
> A Jew may not mevateil issur lechatchilah
>
> And a corollary
> A Jew may not ask a Gentile to mevateil issur on his behalf.
>
> Q1:  what if a Gentile in the course of producing X (eg gelatin)
> Is mevateil issur lechatchilah but lav davka for a Jew. If a Jew later
> buys it, is it huvrar lemafreI'a?
>
> Q2: Does putting the Gentile process under a kosher supervising agency
> tantamount to being mevateil the issur lechatchila for the eventual
> Jewish purchaser?
>
> Any relevant Shu"t or other material is appreciated.
>
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