[Avodah] Can we force Hashem to do something?

[T613K at aol.com]

btw whenever I see this subject line -- "Can we force Hashem to do  
something?" -- I have the urge to add the word "NO."
 
We can only "force" Him to do what He Himself wants to do and wants us to  
"force" Him to do.  Sort of like that Gemara story about the disagreement  
between R' Eliezer and R' Yehoshua (with R' Yehoshua saying "we don't decide  
halacha according to miracles or bas kol because lo bashamayim he") and HKBH  
laughing and saying, "Nitzchuni banai."  That is, "My children decided the  halacha 
not according to the way I wanted it but according to the way I REALLY  
wanted it, according to the rules I set up."  





--Toby Katz
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