[Avodah] Ta'aroves of yayn mevushal
I. Balbin
Isaac.Balbin at rmit.edu.au
Thu Feb 5 19:06:16 PST 2009
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> KSA 46:4, "Tavshil sheyayin me'areiv bo ve'eino nikar ... eino
> ne'e'sar..."
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> 46:5 Talks about 1/6 in terms of mizug, not bitul.
>
> 46:9 speaks of the aku"m sheshafakh mayim lesokh hayahin ... unless
> we are sure he indended limzago -- mutar.
>
> Sounds like mizug is 1/6 wine-to-water, and otherwise water could
> patur it with even less. How much less, I don't see him discuss.
> Just shafakh.
I think this is clearly a case of Zil Bosar Taymeh (sic)
Sugar added to wine also pasuls the wine for nisuch hamizbeach. I
believe that this is provided that there is a Shinuy Mehoos as
exemplified by the change in taste (the question of sulfite additives
would perhaps be different as they aren't designed to change the
taste, but yes, I know, the better wines don't have them and my own
stomache prefers wine without)
Let's assume X spoons of sugar changed the taste and that less than X
would not be noticed on the palate and hence would be considered yayin
and therefore something which is fit for Nisuch HaMizbeach.
What if I took liquid sweetner and poured it into the Wine such that
the "sweetness" level was the same as that contributed by X. Clearly
even if there was less than 1/6 it ought to be a shinuy hateva of the
wine (yes, I know that 1/6 is dilution specific to water).
Accordingly, in my uneducated opinion, unless the yayin mevushal is
going to cause a level of shinuy in the wine to take it out of the
category of "regular" wine then it would be of no assistance in
mitigating a future issur.
Having said that, taste obviously isn't the only criteria to change
the mehus of of yayin. Yayin which is cooked may in fact not taste
very different at all to yayin which is not cooked. We have two ways
of looking at this. One way is to say, that at the time of the Gemora
the taste was different, and perhaps today this doesn't apply, but
since chazal were already magdir, we don't extend issurim. The other
way is to say that the taste was not very different back then either,
but there was a change in the mehus of the yayin vis a vis the process
(see also the issue of reconstituted grape juice in Minchas Shlomo).
In the case at hand, there isn't any change in the process, nor would
I argue would there be a change in the taste or the mehus, and I would
tend to say that it is of no value to add some yayin mevushal to yayin
that is not mevushal in order to remove the possibility of stam yeynom.
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