[Avodah] Has anyone seen anything on a preference for a tzibbur to be yotzeh with shomeiah koneh/amen versus each individual saying the bracha on their own?

[Shlomo Pick]

Re: Has anyone seen anything on a preference for a tzibbur to be yotzeh with
shomeiah koneh/amen versus each individual saying the bracha on their own?

See the tosefta brachot, Lieberman ed. chapter, 6, halakha 15, p. 37, lines
68 ff. (I use this one as it's the one in the responsa project and the
easiest to locate.  

The issue there is birchot hamitzva, with the tanna giving preference to one
saying the birchat hamitzva for many individuals doing one mitzvah.  This is
the custom of the Yemenites in sefirat ha'omer, the chazzan or rabbi makes
the birchat hamitzva for all of the congregation and they answer amen and
then count for themselves (in contra to the psak of the mishna brurah).

This is what you do with the mitzvah of shmi'at kol shofar. The ba'al tokea
makes the bracha and you all answer amen.

Does it work for birchot hashevach?

Well the Rambam's shita in proreis al hashmah is that the chazzan says the
birchot kriyat shma, and he is motzei the congregation even when they answer
amen, and this is bezibbur (hil. Tefila, 8:5; 9:1; 9:9).

A friend ask a poseik if his kids said Kiddush by themselves on Friday nite
for chinuch, when they became bar mitvah should they stop and be yotzei with
the father or continue to make their own? The poseik answered, if you want
to be mechanech your kids, then teach them the din of the tosefta, which is
the din of the tannaim and no one is cholek.

Pesach sameiach vekasher.

shlomo

 

 

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