[Avodah] Tisha Qabbin

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

I'm trying to clarify how 9 qabbin work

It seems ko'ach gavra is a given.

Q:  is a keili needed?
 
If not then turning on a shower might be sufficient ko'ach gavra 

If a keili is required then this will not work.

Good Shabbos
RRW
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