[Avodah] hutra vs dechuya

Shlomo Pick picksh at mail.biu.ac.il
Tue Feb 24 15:47:54 PST 2009


Halevie that all this was simple.  
Re: shevus bamikdash, see tosofot eiruvin 103a s.v. hah, that a shevus gadol
is assur.  See also shoel umeishiv mahadurah mahadura kamah, vol II, no.
146, that a shavus that is assur be"etzem is assur in mikdash.  Cf. rambam
korban pesach 1:16 and avnei nezer, o.h. vol.w, no. 118:6.

Re: korbanos hutrah in mikdash on Shabbat. The source is yoma 46b. however,
see kesef mishna to hil Shabbat 2:1 who brings a rashba, and repeats this in
beit yosef, orach chayim, 128, that learns according to maimonides that
korbonot on shabbos are dechya. This seems to be maimonides position in bias
mikdasy, 4:9 where he uses the term docheh vis a vis shabbos and korbonot.
While in korban pesach above he uses the term heter for shevus in mikdash. S

Thus, this is the food that a shiru kellali is made from.
Chodesh tov
Shlomo


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rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com wrote:
> Shlomoh Pick:
>> Similarly, I believe that shabbos in the mikdash is the same problem.
> 
> With regard to:
> Shvus?
> Mlacha d'oraisso?
> Both?

The question can only be about d'oraisa, because there never were any
shvusim (shvuyos?) to be mutor or dochuy.  Ein shvus bamikdosh.


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