[Avodah] Currency and Bond Trading; Ribis

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 12:11:20 PST 2009


> Consider an economic cooperative association. Members agree to treat
> fellow members according to set rules, offering each other economic
> privileges not offered to non-members. One would assume that members
> do not consider themselves "better" than non-members, or that they feel
> they are justified in dealing unethically with non-members; they are just
> offering fellow members some special discounts, which they themselves
> are entitled to receive from fellow members. In regard to ribit, Jews
> are such an economic cooperative association.See TT to Dvarim 23:21 d"h
> Umnam
> Saul Mashbaum

Leshitasi and I think RSR Hirsch et. al. it's all about a societal
co-operative

Raya taryag applies to no individual only to society as a whole.

When rashi vayishlach says taryag mitzos
Shamarti how is is shayach in one individual?

I gave a teirutz this year: Ya'akov avinu is the very last individual
to whom all 613 applied because he is the last to be kolleil Israel.
Once dvided into shevatim this could ONLY be done by community/society.

And AISI the tachlis is mamleches kohanim v'goy qaddosh. That to me
trumps individual perfection.

Monastic hermits such as eliyahu hanavi and rashby are important for
society as a whole. But not the tachlis of every individual. Hirsch is
pretty clear re: how qehilla ought to work. If you have 1,000 Jews and
999 are R Yisroel Salanters you are not building a chevra qadisha.

You need chtotvei eitzim. But we also treat each other b'ahava aside
from economics. It's a spiritual co-operative, too.

KNLFAD
RRW 
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