[Avodah] "Ancient" Minhagim

Yitzhak Grossman celejar at gmail.com
Tue Feb 3 22:10:22 PST 2009


On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:35:06 +0000
rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com wrote:

...

> Re: reshus vs. Hiyyuv:
> See both tur and gra and the rosh they both quote..
> 
> Reshus is the teirutz of smag but is clearly dochak..

You're right; I was not that familiar with the Sugya, and I relied on
the fact that Maran ruled in accordance with Semag (and Tosafos) and
Rema did not dissent.  It does seem, though, at least from my cursory
perusal of the Rishonim, that the straightforward reading of the Sugya
is indeed that women are actually obligated in Zimun (even when there
are not three men present), and the implication of Tosafos is that they
are reinterpreting the Sugya to justify the Minhag to the contrary.

Yitzhak
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