[Avodah] torah lishma

[Rich, Joel]

Being shared with R' EK's permission - the issue of needing to be not
self aware is fascinating as imho it informs on our oft discussed issue
of how change occurs within orthodoxy.
KT
Joel Rich 



	Dear Joel,
	One major difference is the way Reb Chaim viewed himself, as
opposed to some of the modern ideologues.
	Reb Chaim never expressed himself as somehow breaking with the
past (I referred to this in an article, see the Orthodox Forum's Lomdus
volume, p. 331). As I indicated, self-conscious revolution is a
phenomenon of the modern batei-midrash. In a recent article in the
magazine "Nekuda", Rav Yehuda Brandes (who is at the forefront of the
new approaches to learning) explicitly wrote that hte new learning
community needs to emphasize its differentness and stop trying to be a
part of the "stifling" classic style, which he attributes to the
"haredi" world (which to many is a damning epithet).
	Thanks for your interest,
	Elyakim Krumbein


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