[Avodah] Threats Against A Judge
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Sun Jan 25 19:45:55 PST 2009
From: Micha Berger _micha at aishdas.org_ (mailto:micha at aishdas.org)
>>The opposite of Torah, self refinement, is gilui arayos. (To put it in
my own thoughts, the only one harmed when conducted "by two consenting
adults behind closed doors" are the two people themselves....)<<
>>>>>
You try to draw a parallel between Torah, avodah, gemilus chasadim on the
one hand, and gilui arayos, A'Z and shefichus damim on the other. Two out of
the three work but the first (Torah parallel to G'A) is strained.
I don't understand what you mean when you say that the only people harmed in
the case of G'A are the two sinners themselves (nor why that makes G'A
parallel to Torah). It isn't true, most of the time. If a mamzer is born as a
result of this sin, the child is most certainly harmed. If a husband has been
cheated on, he is most certainly harmed. In a broader sense, all of Klal
Yisrael -- indeed, the very fabric of civilization -- is harmed when individuals
commit despicable acts, acts that bring down Divine judgement.
When only two people are engaged in G'A the harm is minimal but the tendency
is for such sins to spread and become more widespread, with each such act
tending to engender more such acts. Related to this is the reason why a person
who sees a sotah might want to become a nazir -- the very fact that this
woman committed adultery (even though the consequence, for her, was death) tends
to increase the likelihood that others, too, will commit such sins.
You might think that if people sin in private and nobody ever finds out,
then no one is harmed and such sins will not become "contagious" but it's not
so. Somehow, evil does become known and it does influence the wider society.
There is just no such thing as a truly private act that has no repercussions
for anyone else.
--Toby Katz
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