[Avodah] A Prayer During Operation Cast Lead

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 03:06:29PM -0500, Yitzhak Grossman wrote:
: It is not.  Without taking a position on the actual issue of the
: utilization of Masorati prayers, this is a flawed analogy; we burn a
: Sefer Torah written by a Min since Halachah assumes that it has
: certainly been written "Leshem Avodas Kochavim" (Rashi Gittin 45b s.v.
: yi'saref, Maggid Mishneh Tefillin 1:13, Taz YD 281:1 and Shach YD
: 281:1). Masorati are not ovdei avodah zarah any more than Muslims are.

Never mind Muslims....

R' Elyashiv was asked about the permissability of 12 Step programs
(Alcoholics Anonymous and the like). Among the questions asked is the
use of the Paternoster ("Our Father Who art in heaven..."), a Notzri
prayer. Issues of trinitarianism, etc...

RYSE was matir saying it! Admittedly, the context may have been given
motivation lehaqeil

(Speaking of context: I am curious whether RYSE knew that he was not only
speaking of people at or hovering near piquach nefesh when he allowed
such programs (not speaking of any prayers for the moment). Members
of Overeaters Anonymous who are far from the "risking heart failure"
stage rely on his heter of 12 Step as well.)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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