[Avodah] woman reading a ketuba

[Harry Maryles]

--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 01:37:16PM -0800, Harry Maryles wrote:
: I agree. But why should this definition of modesty apply any less to
: aman that to a woman? Shouldn't we apply Tzne Halaches be the both?

RHS, when discussing tzeni'us, points to the halkhah that a man who is
offered to be sha"tz should initially decline. Standing as Chazan is a
breach of tzeni'us. Nu, someone has to do it for the minyan to function,
so eventually someone better agree. But it's a sacrifice for the sake
of the tzibbur.

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I have read his Sevarah on this. But I'm not sure I agree with it. 
 
I do not see the Shaliach Tzibur in any way as violating the concept of Tznius. 
 
It is true that when one is asked to daven for the Amud, tyat he should at first decline as a sign of Tznius. But Not because being a ST is in any way not Tznius. It is because one must not run after Kibbudim and being offered the Amud is a Kibud. Declining one or two times ibefire finally accepting is a sign that one does not run after Kavod. 
 
That is a different kind of Tznius than what RHS suggests. He seems to be saying that davening as a ST is in an of itself a necessary violation of Tznius. I don't think one can say that a Mitzvah mandated by Chazal to lead the Tzibur in Teffila could in any way be construed as a form of Tznius violation.

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