[Avodah] Reciting l'Dovid Hashem Ori

[David Cohen]

RMB wrote:

"There are two kinds of new chumros: are you talking about something
people start doing knowing it's lifnim mishuras hadin, or a new
stringent pesaq?"

Me: I am considering the chumra which may have started as a personal
stringency, but morphs into normative practice, so that a lenient deviation
is now considered a kulah from the "normative psak".
"In the former case, there is no reason to limit oneself to halachic
process, as long as one is sure not to apply the chumrah in cases where
he is being meiqil on something else."

Me: And therein lies the rub, because once it becomes the practice of
everyone in  a particular group, all others are either forced to accept or
be labeled as meikilim.

"In the latter case, the problem is quite real. It's non-trivial to say
that generations of ancestors were doing it wrong and we know better.

What usually happens is that something is taught as lifnim mishuras hadin,
but by the time the students -- or subsequent generations -- get to it,
they forget that bit.

: It just sounds like a way to justify the results we want, rather than have
a
: consistent methodology.
Or, that giving significance to the evidence of minhag, or the
legislative weight of minhag, is part of that methodology. At per RRW
and my interminable debate.

I believe that's what is happening with saying "LeDavid".

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha"

Me: I am taking the "Rupture and Reconstruction" idea further, and saying
that the loss of Torat Imecha works in only one direction, chumra. But
lenient sources are ignored and Torat Imecha reigns supreme, because
obviously the Gedolim know and rejected the lenient sources sub silentio. As
I said, sounds result oriented.

Shabbat shalom

David I. Cohen
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