[Avodah] ID of chilazon vs. chagavim

[Yitzhak Grossman]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:18:19 -0400
Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

...

> The simanim for chilazon don't define what source may be used for a dye
> (IOW, the claim is not that anything that gufo domeh layam etc... can
> be used), they are the gemara's description of the source. They are
> descriptive, and thus one can argue that they only serve to confirm
> a mesorah.

Actually, the Radziner [0] seriously considers the possibility that dye
derived from *any* animal species [1] is acceptable for Techeles, as
long as it satisfies the crucial colorfastness criterion.

[0] Ma'amar S'funei T'munei Hol, end of 'Ha'ta'anah ha'shniah', pp.
18-19 in the YM 5743 edition

[1] He says 'kol minei halazonos u'tolaim', but in context it's clear
that he means any animal species

> Micha Berger             Zion will be redeemed through justice,

Yitzhak
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