[Avodah] NishmaBlog : Evolutionary Patterns in Halachic Texts

Richard Wolpoe rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Fri Jun 20 14:19:50 PDT 2008


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Richard Wolpoe
> <RabbiRichWolpoe at gmail.com> pointed us to his Nisha Blog entry at
> <
> http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/evolutionary-patterns-in-halachic-texts.html
> >
> "Evolutionary Patterns in Halachic Texts":
> >    Below I have outlined a very simplistic model. The common theme is
> >    expansion and contraction or condensation - much like a Chiastic
> >    structure.
>
> I think your suggestion as you then spell it out is more straightforward
> than this introductory summary:
>
> What defines an era is a sudden reduction ("mishnaic form") followed by a
> slow expansion first through noting significant excluded options, then
> through more gemera-like development.
>
> Is R' Yosef Caro unique in being both Maran Bet Yosef of the "gemara"
> ending the rishonim and the Mechaber of the "mishnah" beginning the
> acharonim?
>

In effect he is, but he is really mirroring the Rambam.
Remember Rambam, SA and Kitzur SA all cite no sources.
Tur does at times.




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> I think the Tur's organization scheme is derived from the Bavli's.
>
> Rebbe had 6 sedarim. But the Bavli only has 4 plus to mesechtos.
> OCh = Mes. Berakhos + Mo'eid
> EhE = Nashim + Mes. Niddah
> CM = Nezikim
> YD = Qodshim
>
> :-)BBii!
> -Micha
>

True. But the Tur's simanim aee NOW ubiquitous. Vritually no one emulates
Rambam's divinsions nor Chayei Adma's etc

And the S'eifim of the SA have NOW been retrofitted to:

   1. Tur
   2. BY
   3. AhSh
   4. MB

I think the MB migh have wanted to accomplish a Talmud of Acahronim but I
am  not convinced he succeeded. As you know I thin the AhSh did better, but
I also concede it is not a complete work either.

The Badei Hashulchan is a fine Body of work but he does not quote all major
sources either.


-- 
Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
see: http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
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