[Avodah] MR was king

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Thu Jun 19 14:13:49 PDT 2008


On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:32:35PM +0300, Eli Turkel wrote:
:> Would this have worked? Moshe Rabbeinu haya melech (see Tanhuma
:> Beha'alothcha 9, cited by the Rambam but I don't recall where).  A
:> king's wife may not remarry (H. Melachim 2:2).

: How literally do we take this? Obviously he did not pass the kingship
: to his son as a normal king would do...

Actually, just to remind people, it's not "how literally do WE take
this?" The suggestion didn't come from an Avodah poster. What RSBA wrote
(11:11am on Wed) was:
> Secondly, I see that the Shaarei Ahraon quotes "Eimek Hanetziv" saying
> that Tzipporah was definitely not complaining about MR being away from
> her. Had she been upset about it, MR would've divorced her to allow her
> to remarry.

(Aside: Who is the Shaarei Aharon?)

It's in Haameq Davar. Clearly, therefore, the Netziv didn't hold that
MRAH's melukhah extended this far.

Also, in last week's parashah, MRAH was mocheil his kavod. So I was
planning to point out that a melekh isn't allowed to. But then, neither
is a talmid chakham. So, it's a question either way.

: did MR have to shave often? (what MR didn't have a long umkempt beard!!)
: Did he keep a sefer Torah with him all the time?
: (Since the sefer Torah wasnt finished till he died obviously not)

Actually, that's a machloqes, Reish Laqish says it was all given at once.

The way I remember the dei'os: R' Yochanan spent a lifetime learning,
and holds that the Torah was given over the courst of 40 years. Reish
Laqish, the baal teshuvah, holds it was given all at once. I think
this is more than a mnemonic, and says a lot about the nimshal of the
aggadita.

Remember, RY belittled RL over his past. Either really, or didn't correct
RL when he took offense, thinking so, even as it lead to RL's death! R'
Yochanan clearly didn't hold "bemaqom sheBT omedeim...", at least, not in
a complimentary way. Leshitaso, Torah takes years of work. My bet is that
he was choleiq on Rebbe and held "ein mi sheqoneh olamo besha'ah achas".

The trick doesn't help for the tannaim who chime in on the machloqes.

But in any case, of course MRAH didn't carry a seifer if it didn't exist
yet. But you can't deduce anything from that -- ein danin es ha'efshar
mishe'i efshar.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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