[Avodah] Yom ha'atma'us etc.

[Mike Miller]

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Michael Makovi <mikewinddale at gmail.com> wrote:
> Phew, I'm not the only one! AFAIK, with Chanuka, we say Hallel *davka*
> because we were delivered from gentile rule. Rambam waxes about 200+
> years of Jewish independence, and therefore we say Hallel.
>
> My Rav Kookish rabbi said, "150+ of those years were Tzadukim, and yet
> we celebrate Jewish independence!" (Notice the connection to today's
> rulers?)

Nope. There, we had a start that was proper which degenerated into a
heretical leadership. In EY today, we can't say we started with pure
leadership (I'm not sure if things have gotten better or worse
overall; some things are certainly better, some are certainly worse
today than 60 years ago).

-- Mike Miller
Ramat Bet Shemesh