[Avodah] Court retroactively revokes conversions

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From: "s kadish" _skadish1 at gmail.com_ (mailto:skadish1 at gmail.com) 

>>Despite  the widespread discussion of #1, in our experience it is #2 that
is truly the  motivation for the batei din. The ingathering of the exiles
was never  promised to be lily-white: The State of Israel has accepted --
rightly and  justly -- the surviving remnant of communities that suffered
Hitler, Stalin,  and 70 years of communism. These included intermarried
families and their  descendants. It is precisely this point that those
who disqualify the RZ  batei din most disagree with: The charedim view
the recent aliyah of  1,000,000+ Russians as a Torah tragedy rather than
as a historical  vindication of Netach Yisrael. That is the difference
that makes all the  difference.<<

Shabbat Shalom,
Seth (Avi) Kadish
Karmiel,  Israel




>>>>>
Thank you for clarifying this extremely important point.
 
I would add that the flood of Russians that were brought into Israel on  the 
basis of the flimsiest of Jewish connections were /deliberately/  brought in 
by the secular government, with the precise intention of diluting the  
influence of the religious parties -- charedi and DL alike.
 
Many charedim are very unhappy with what they see as the DL tendency to  do 
the secular Zionists' dirty work for them -- retroactively "kashering" what  
amounts to a spiritual eruv rav -- without really expecting that the majority of 
 these Russians will ever be observant.
 
The testimony which has been brought here, to the effect that the DL  batei 
din DO grill would-be converts intensively, suggests that maybe these  charedi 
criticisms are having an effect.  In addition, negative experiences  with 
large numbers of converts who proved to be very problematic have also  probably 
had their effect, such that DL batei din are, perhaps, belatedly  tightening up 
their standards.




--Toby  Katz
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