[Avodah] When does mixed swimming mean?

[SBA]

From: "Meir Shinnar" <chidekel at gmail.com>
WRT mixed swimming
This discussion has come up in the past, and, as I previously documented, it
was common practice for rabbanim and rebbitzens to go mixed swimming at
least through the 1950s -  including names that are well known - and the
standards of tzniut were comparable to what is seen at most family friendly
beaches and pools.
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And how do you (and those well known rabbanim and rebbitzens) explain the
gemara that I just quoted?
 
"Middas adam ra sheroeh es ishto...verochetzes im bnei adam."
"Im bnei adam salka daatach!?"
[Peirush Rashi: "Im kein raglayim ledavar shezonah hi, ve'asurah lo".
Tosfos: "Afilu adam ra eino sovel zeh me'ishto...afilu kala shebekalos eino
oseh ken.."]
"Ela bemakom shebnei adam rochtzin - zu mitzva min haTorah legarsho"
>>

Pretty RW/Charedi language wouldn't you say?
"Afilu Adam ra eino sovel", "Zonah", "kalah shebekalos" !!


>>It has become unacceptable - but that doesn't necessarily 
mean that it is assur 

The above-quoted language seems pretty assur to me.


>>(one can argue about making a new issur shehachadash assur min
hatorah...:-)

No need for the smiley. 
Believe it or not, the CS uses it also for newly invented chumros.
But mixed swimming definitely isn't one of them.

>>but there is little basis for forbidding, for example, mixed swimming,

Only if one holds that Chazal and Rishonim are "little basis".

SBA