[Avodah] makom Ha'Mishkan

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:18:39PM +0300, Goldmeier wrote:
: Is there such a limitation by the makom ha'mishkan? I seem to remember 
: learnign once, but cannot remember where or when, that the makom 
: hamishkan is not kadosh, and only the binyan itself was. That would mean 
: the place could be tread upon by anybody. Is that correct though or do I 
: remember incorrectly?

Megillah 10a has a machloqes between R' Yehoshua (lo qidshah) and R'
Eliezer (qidshah) as to whether bayis rishon was qidsha lesha'ata veqidsha
le'asid lavo.

The Rambam (BhB 5:16) and Ra'avad (Terumos 13:13) write that
bayis sheini IS qidshah le'asid lavo. The Seiver haTerumah
(Hil' EY) and the Or Zarua (AZ 299) both hold it isn't. In
<http://www.aishdas.org/mesukim/5764/devarim.pdf>, pg 2 note 3 I argue
that the Meshech Chokhmah must hold that there is no qedushah today from
bayis sheini either. My case is that the RMShKmD already argued that the
medrash must hold like R' Yehoshua when it counts the sanctification of
Yehoshua separately than that biymei Zerubavel. And the medrash he is
studying refers to three givings of the land. Thus implying that the
third, biymos hamashiach, would have to be also a sanctification of a
har habyis which is chol.

The pasuq specifically tells us that after Maamad har Sinai, the
mountain returned to chol.

I do not know of anyone who goes even further than the R' Eliezer, and
groups any of the places the mishkan stood with bayis sheini rather than
with har habayis in this regard. The Mishkan has specific connotations
of diras arai to begin with.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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