[Avodah] When does mixed swimming mean?

[Rich, Joel]

Somone (RnTK, maybe, or RnSB?) recently made an excellent point about
this which boiled down to: yes, one can write a sefer that paskens
outfit by outfit, but that misses the point and gets bogged down in
minutia to the extent that the real concept is lost (and communal
standards get replaced by someone's chumros).  If one teaches the
underlying ideas and the basic halachos, women will figure it out.

"Tight clothes" is a perfect example.  A psak would require strictly
defining "tight clothes," which is probably impossible.  Some common
sense is required: does this outfit attract the wrong kind of attention
or not?

--
Daniel M. Israel
dmi1 at cornell.edu
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2 points 
1. tzniut is not just for women and some would argue that orthodox
society as a whole has not done as good a job as it could in "common
sense" in this area.

2. It may be a difficult lesson to transmit that sometimes we are
concerned only with the strict letter of the law (e.g. our prior
discussions concerning sheitels) and sometimes we expect "common sense"
often no agreement as to common nor sense)
KT
Joel Rich
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